diff --git a/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java b/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java
index f5fe741c9..dae29fe62 100644
--- a/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java
+++ b/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 //
-// $Id: PlaceManager.java,v 1.41 2002/11/01 21:32:23 shaper Exp $
+// $Id: PlaceManager.java,v 1.42 2003/02/05 00:23:33 mdb Exp $
 
 package com.threerings.crowd.server;
 
@@ -336,7 +336,7 @@ public class PlaceManager
      * managers can override this and augment the default value (which is
      * simply the place object id) with useful identifying information.
      */
-    protected String where ()
+    public String where ()
     {
         return String.valueOf(_plobj.getOid());
     }
diff --git a/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java b/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java
index bc66c5cc2..bfaaf08cb 100644
--- a/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java
+++ b/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 //
-// $Id: SceneManager.java,v 1.10 2002/06/20 22:12:23 mdb Exp $
+// $Id: SceneManager.java,v 1.11 2003/02/05 00:23:52 mdb Exp $
 
 package com.threerings.whirled.server;
 
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ public class SceneManager extends PlaceManager
     }
 
     // documentation inherited
-    protected String where ()
+    public String where ()
     {
         return _scene.getName() + " (" + super.where() + ")";
     }