diff --git a/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java b/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java
index e0f06fc97..bf810fcfd 100644
--- a/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java
+++ b/src/java/com/threerings/crowd/server/PlaceManager.java
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 //
-// $Id: PlaceManager.java,v 1.9 2001/08/20 20:54:57 mdb Exp $
+// $Id: PlaceManager.java,v 1.10 2001/08/21 01:07:18 mdb Exp $
 
 package com.threerings.cocktail.party.server;
 
@@ -222,6 +222,32 @@ public class PlaceManager implements Subscriber
         return true;
     }
 
+    /**
+     * Generates a string representation of this manager. Does so in a way
+     * that makes it easier for derived classes to add to the string
+     * representation.
+     *
+     * @see toString(StringBuffer)
+     */
+    public String toString ()
+    {
+        StringBuffer buf = new StringBuffer();
+        buf.append("[");
+        toString(buf);
+        buf.append("]");
+        return buf.toString();
+    }
+
+    /**
+     * An extensible way to add to the string representation of this
+     * class. Override this (being sure to call super) and append your
+     * info to the buffer.
+     */
+    protected void toString (StringBuffer buf)
+    {
+        buf.append("place=").append(_plobj);
+    }
+
     /**
      * An interface used to allow the registration of standard message
      * handlers to be invoked by the place manager when particular types
diff --git a/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java b/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java
index 2cdd840bd..d6bdbc187 100644
--- a/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java
+++ b/src/java/com/threerings/whirled/server/SceneManager.java
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 //
-// $Id: SceneManager.java,v 1.1 2001/08/11 04:09:50 mdb Exp $
+// $Id: SceneManager.java,v 1.2 2001/08/21 01:07:19 mdb Exp $
 
 package com.threerings.whirled.server;
 
@@ -34,6 +34,12 @@ public class SceneManager extends PlaceManager
         _screg.sceneManagerDidInit(this);
     }
 
+    protected void toString (StringBuffer buf)
+    {
+        super.toString(buf);
+        buf.append("scene=").append(_scene);
+    }
+
     protected Scene _scene;
     protected SceneRegistry _screg;
 }